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11 hrs ago·edited 11 hrs ago

Protestantism is far more malleable and fluid than any hyper organized version of Christianity. For that reason, I'd rather work with what we have than try to replace it with something centralized. If anything, what we need is, "life affirming," Christianity that works in tandem with a pagan youth.

Mormon's may have a unique propensity towards actualization. The Religion itself is mocked by the bulwark of the population. It's like Judaism except you're allowed to make fun of it. While it's possible for Mormon's to rigamarole specific policies that encourage a facet of their religious dogma and culture, it's unlikely it'll be America's, "future," religion. There's no way it gets picked up by a mass amount of people and merges with the state. Future influence? I'll take your word on that one. America's future holistically? Doubtful

The rest of the stuff can be addressed in an article I'll now write. Elite Human Capital and it's hopeful consequences is a myth. It's real, in the sense that certain positions grant more influence and prestige, but it vastly overestimates the ability for this influence to enact change in the bureaucracy. In order to create real change, the so called, "used car dealer," needs to be brought into the game. They have a ton of potential energy, and it's a core facet of the future, "right wing," coalition currently arising. If they're brought into the fold (along with a few others), actual change is possible. That's a lot more difficult, but unless something like that happens, the United States will fracture and balkanize given the nature of the uni-party consensus. There's really no choice in the matter... However, given this event takes place, your Mormon theory makes a lot of sense. I just don't want it to get to that point...

Hannania wrote that article as much for himself and his own mental well being as his, "audience."

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It's more demographics are destiny. What happens if it continues to double in population every 20 years, Where will the country be in 50, 100 years? It'll swing elections and be a gravity for politics, they're also educated so they'll get to fill strong positions.

Mormonism is also pro-american since it believes America is the 'promised land' and has lines that praise the constitution. Whereas Protestantism and other types of Christianity are unmoored and universalist, they can easily be infiltrated and warped into hippie slave morality Jesus. A Protestantism that recognises pagan truths could spring up. The strength of Protestantism is indeed it can keep branching and evolving generating stronger and stronger versions.

Mormonism is actually one of the few forms of Christianity that isn't in steep decline or infiltration in the UK.

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That's why I added the addendum given collapse and balkanization. The United States can not exist given its political frame for 20 years. I doubt it last ten

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I think many of the people reading this misunderstand the point. What I took from this notion of Mormon EHC is that a more integrated collaboration with them, not a 'replacement' of the more prevalent Protestantism (or even traditionalist Catholicism), would be desirable for the Republicans. And besides the sense of Mormons being largely coreligionist with most Republicans, one could focus on the strategic benefits of having more organized political operations, which the Mormons appear to be well-suited for due to their systematic religious hierarchy, higher birthrates, level of educational attainment, and a possibly higher average IQ (though we need more studies).

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5 hrs ago·edited 5 hrs ago

That's not a political project I'm interested in partaking. It's a fair assessment if you're an RNC operative or focused in the, "mold," of mainstream American politics. That being said, I'm not sure any policy Mormons would pursue would bring the youth, and thus the future, into the fold. If anything, like the hard-line pro-lifers, it would be a huge wedge put between the GOP and any salient political future given parliamentary democracy.

Also, Mormons being included as a massive partner in the GOP will create far more problems down the road even assuming temporary gains. You are correct in your summary of their potential. That's actually the problem. Cutting your nose to spite your face. They're too woo woo and insular. You could enact actual change if you pursue something with a greater vision... tbh, I'm not sure what the point is in even trying in American politics if this isn't the overarching goal. If it's your job? That's cool. Just don't expect it to actualize a vision, unless you already agree with the vision the GOP operate under.

Personally, I don't think anyone is happy with either party. Hyper partisian morons aren't necessary in any equation for the future. They're the most easily duped mass and will follow and sing the party's praise. The only question is who rules them-- not if it's true.

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You have to engage in real politics regardless of whether it’s in the mold of mainstream politics or on the fringe. And the Mormons already are partners of the GOP, whether as an asset or a liability. So, it is up to the establishment and ‘peripheral’ members of the right to project an acceptance of the Mormon values as they relate to EHC, such as higher educational attainment, etc. (The right is so obviously scarce in EHC individuals in comparison to the left). Further, I would hope for a Mormon-to-secular pipeline where we could essentially harvest political talent and be less beholden to establishment figures in the GOP.

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I don't have to do anything. Matter of fact, I choose not to. I'm not interested in following robots to nothing ville. They can eat a bag of dicks. My bag of dicks. I collect them

The only one that, "has," to do so is one that's, "engaged," in the system. Like I said. Keep doing you. If they're a retard with no vision they'll be booted. If they're an ally they can stay. Regardless, I won't play a losing game. I'm the pigeon that takes a shit on the board till enough people want to play a different game.

I have no interest in education. You are propelling a broken system while also claiming to want to change it. You will do neither. Political talent is not what we need. A leader is what we need. Trump proved that. We just needed a better one...

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LDS are probably some of the best white people in contemporary America.

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I prefer the Amish, the Mormons have some weird beliefs.

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I like certain aspects of LDS theology but don’t care one way or the other about religion. I’m fond of the Amish as well.

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Aren’t Mormons fertility rate also falling? Like if they are going to turn the same as the rest of Americans but 25 years later, then there is not much hope for them too

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Very interesting analysis

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